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	<title>Comments on: Managing spam with &#8220;after classification&#8221; filters</title>
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	<description>Messaging with Mozilla by rkent</description>
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		<title>By: rkent</title>
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		<dc:creator>rkent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, I&#039;m not sure where to start here.

My primary effort for junk mail managment in TB in not the feature of this post, but my extension &lt;a href=&quot;https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/junquilla/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;JunQuilla&lt;/a&gt;. The main point of that extension is to better cue you on when to train the junk filter. With it and with discipline in training, and in combination with a Spam Assassin server filter, I get better than 95% spam rejection with 0% false positive. And I get hundreds of spam emails daily, so this is critical to my work, and not &quot;out of date&quot;.

If you want to use the same statistical methods to sort email into other categories, see my extension &lt;a href=&quot;https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/taquilla/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TaQuilla&lt;/a&gt;. Unfortunately it is not easy to do the large amount of training needed for most categorization methods, so that is not a widely used extension.

For classifying of email using non-statistical methods, TB includes standard filter methods. For cases when those standard methods are inadequate, my extension &lt;a href=&quot;https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/filtaquilla/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FiltaQuilla&lt;/a&gt; may be used.

So I am much broader than junk mail management. Most of my effort recently is going into new account types, such as extensions ExQuilla and TweeQuilla.

Regards,
rkent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, I&#8217;m not sure where to start here.</p>
<p>My primary effort for junk mail managment in TB in not the feature of this post, but my extension <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/junquilla/" rel="nofollow">JunQuilla</a>. The main point of that extension is to better cue you on when to train the junk filter. With it and with discipline in training, and in combination with a Spam Assassin server filter, I get better than 95% spam rejection with 0% false positive. And I get hundreds of spam emails daily, so this is critical to my work, and not &#8220;out of date&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you want to use the same statistical methods to sort email into other categories, see my extension <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/taquilla/" rel="nofollow">TaQuilla</a>. Unfortunately it is not easy to do the large amount of training needed for most categorization methods, so that is not a widely used extension.</p>
<p>For classifying of email using non-statistical methods, TB includes standard filter methods. For cases when those standard methods are inadequate, my extension <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/filtaquilla/" rel="nofollow">FiltaQuilla</a> may be used.</p>
<p>So I am much broader than junk mail management. Most of my effort recently is going into new account types, such as extensions ExQuilla and TweeQuilla.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
rkent.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your emphasis on junk email may be out of date. A few years ago email was used mostly to communicate with friends and to avoid advertisements (junk). In modern times, email is used by banks, investment brokers, household utility companies, travel agencies, and more. What is needed seems to be a way to sort the incoming email into folders. Eudora 7.1 does this very well.
Being able to sort emails into folders should make it easy to filter out junk too. My Eudora filters are both positive (e.g., is the email sender in my address book, or does the email contain the phrase &quot;account 1234&quot;), and negative (e.g., is this email from &quot;Joe Blow&quot;, or is the email from someone not in my address book and contains the word &quot;viagra&quot;). When an email falls through all my filters, it goes to my &quot;unknown&quot; folder. That is my in-between spot. 
Please consider changing your emphasis from &quot;junk&quot; to &quot;sort/select&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your emphasis on junk email may be out of date. A few years ago email was used mostly to communicate with friends and to avoid advertisements (junk). In modern times, email is used by banks, investment brokers, household utility companies, travel agencies, and more. What is needed seems to be a way to sort the incoming email into folders. Eudora 7.1 does this very well.<br />
Being able to sort emails into folders should make it easy to filter out junk too. My Eudora filters are both positive (e.g., is the email sender in my address book, or does the email contain the phrase &#8220;account 1234&#8243;), and negative (e.g., is this email from &#8220;Joe Blow&#8221;, or is the email from someone not in my address book and contains the word &#8220;viagra&#8221;). When an email falls through all my filters, it goes to my &#8220;unknown&#8221; folder. That is my in-between spot.<br />
Please consider changing your emphasis from &#8220;junk&#8221; to &#8220;sort/select&#8221;.</p>
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