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10:49 am
March 25, 2009
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Aaron
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Just wondering if you are aware of the older MailClassifier addon:
http://mailclassifier.mozdev.org/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/3376
This was another extension that seemed great in theory but always lagged behind in development and never worked with the latest versions of Thunderbird…
…wondering if there are opportunities for re-use to aid in development (The auto-message-moving of MailClassifier was great).
Thanks again,
Aaron
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1:10 pm
March 25, 2009
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rkent
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I looked at it briefly, but not in detail. TaQuilla really is a product of my backend work, so the bayes filter is completely integrated with the C++ junk mail classifier, to the effect that adding new classifications adds very little additional time to the message processing. MailClassifier did not have that advantage, as it is all done in javascript. Also I use the tag metaphor more than folders, and I believe that is a safer path than automatically moving messages.
But still I should install MailClassifier and check it out, as there are probably some good ideas there. Thanks for pointing this out.
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5:51 pm
May 17, 2009
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Bob Noseworthy
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Ah – I see someone already mentioned the Mailclassifier addon. I definitely believe your integrated classifier will be far better/faster than the javascript of Mailclassifier.
What I most crave out of Shredder is two things:
1) search that doesn't die in threaded view (happens to me all the time, bug finally fixed in 3b3pre)
2) bayesian pre-sorting of incoming email, that can easily be trained (but that doesn't (by default) move messages — this is Mailclassifer, though hopefully readily extensible to TaQuilla.
Help make the world a better place and give us (finally) bayesian sorting of incoming mail (as you already have, so what better to do than simply nod and extend the features of TaQuilla)
For any Douglas Adams fans, I equate this to the Electric Monk of Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency — we now have tools to read our email for us, next comes tools that think for us.
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11:53 am
May 18, 2009
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rkent
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So what is the difference between "bayesian pre-sorting of incoming email, that can easily be trained (but that doesn't (by default) move messages" and the current functionality of Taquilla? Isn't tagging messages "pre-sorting"?
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8:46 am
May 21, 2009
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Bob Noseworthy
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My goal/desire:
Minimizing per-message processing time.
MailClassifier provides a link to immediately place the message in the identified folder, so I can select multiple similar messages, click the proper per-sorted classified link (typically only 40-60% of the links are classified 'properly', but that is enough, when multiple messages are selected and one link is clicked, ALL selected messages are moved to the selected folder (and presumably MailClassifer trains on the action performed on all messages)
When tb3b3 is out, I'll be using that with TaQuilla to see how I can minimize my per-message time even better, but this direct-placement one-click feature is quite valuable to me (at least)
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6:57 pm
January 20, 2010
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nathantuggy
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Bob,
I'm aware this is a rather old thread, but just wondering if you've tried using TaQuilla and FiltaQuilla together (perhaps with JunQuilla also, I don't know if that'd be necessary) such that TaQuilla would tag certain messages with "folder-move-to" tags, and then a special message rule is set up with FiltaQuilla's after-classification option and moves all messages tagged with that tag to the folder specified.
Not sure that I can think up a reason to test this myself (not having any complicated tag or folder hierarchy), but I think it should work.
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9:11 am
January 22, 2010
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rkent
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I added the "after classification" option to TB (it's in core by the way, not in an extension) partly to allow just the sort of interactions that you are discussing. But I also do not use it myself, because I make extensive use of virtual folders, so I don't need moves to classify messages, tags are enough.
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